On this episode, Sonia and Jessica are joined by donor conception, surrogacy and adoption expert guest Lisa Schuman. Lisa is a mom of three via adoption, licensed clinical social worker and therapist who is now a family-building expert, award-winning researcher, therapist, podcast host, and author of her new book called Building Your Family; The Complete Guide to Donor Conception. Lisa joins the Geriatric Mamas to share her expert advice on choosing a donor, how surrogacy has changed over the years, and much more on building your family.